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-吉诺比利谈梅西「吉诺比利承认自己跟梅西无法相提并论他更像足球界的谁呢」

吉诺比利谈梅西「吉诺比利承认自己跟梅西无法相提并论他更像足球界的谁呢」

梅西此前曾表示自己是足球界的吉诺比利,后者对此做出回应:“他(梅西)对一个要退役的老将表达了善意,但很显然的是,梅西言论的不当之处根本也不需要我指出来了吧……”

Manu’s reaction to Messi saying he is the Manu of football. “He [Messi] showed kindness to the veteran that is leaving, but obviously there is no need in pointing out Messi’s unjust statement…\”

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Interviewer to Manu “A lot of press in Europe call you the Messi of basketball, but Messi told the press ‘No, I am the Manu of football’. What is your reaction to the best football player putting you above himself.”

记者对吉诺比利发问:“欧洲的很多媒体都称你为篮球届的梅西,但是梅西却说自己是足球界的吉诺比利。世界最强的足球运动员把你排得比他自己还高,你对此作何反应?”

Manu. “He [Messi] showed kindness to the veteran that is leaving, but obviously there is no need in pointing out Messi’s unjust statement. He is the best in the world, I am just one more in the NBA world. I come from a country which does not have a tradition of creating successful basketball players, and that’s why the comparisons [with Messi] have been mentioned. But with Messi we are talking about an all time great, not a successful player in his era.”

吉诺比利:“他(梅西)对一个要退役的老将表达了善意,但很显然的是,梅西言论的不当之处根本也不需要我指出来了吧。他是世界最佳,而我只是NBA的普通一员而已。人们之所以把我们俩作比较只是因为我来自一个不怎么出产成功篮球运动员的国家。但是梅西可是历史级别的名宿啊,而不仅是(像我一样)在自己年代取得成功的球员。

This is my rough translation.

Source

我大概翻译了一下(阿根廷人)。

原文:

https://www.facebook.com/SportsCenterESPN.argentina/videos/274364120068956/

[–]ThunderChrowanWestbrook 2702 指標 7小時前

very humble, he\’s right though

非常谦逊,不过他说的没错。

[–]Thunderphools 609 指標 6小時前

It’s heartwarming seeing two humble and respected athletes talk about each other like this.

看到两个受尊敬而又谦虚的运动员互相称赞对方,真是让我心里暖烘烘的。

[–]ThunderTheGhostOfBobStoops 94 指標 6小時前

It\’s unfair to pick a side here. Manu may not be the MJ or LBJ of the NBA, but he\’s easily one of the greatest leaders in the NBA ever since he walked on the court. Greatness isn\’t only in scoring the most goals or winning the most rings. Manu\’s effect goes way past contributing to the Spur\’s dynasty.

其实让大家对此站队挺不公平的。吉诺比利虽然可能不是NBA的乔丹或者詹姆斯,但是自从他踏上球场的那一刻起,他就已经是NBA史上最伟大的领袖之一了,毫不夸张。伟不伟大可不只是看踢进几个球或者有几枚戒指啊。吉诺比利的影响力远不止于对马刺王朝的贡献。

[–]Suns95castles 441 指標 6小時前

No, you can definitely pick a side here. Messi is the literal GOAT. Manu is another All-star player who had superstar benefits for his team.

Messi is like MJ or Lebron. Manu is like Andres Iniesta.

不不不,你绝对能针对此话题挑边站的。梅西可是实打实的史上第一人啊。而吉诺比利只是个普通的全明星,但对自己的球队来说有超巨的作用。。

梅西就像是乔丹或者詹姆斯。吉诺比利更像伊涅斯塔吧。

[–]BullsDavidManque 231 指標 5小時前

I think you are seriously underrating how incredible Iniesta was. He made 9 World XI teams in a row (soccer equivalent to 1st team all-NBA), came in 2nd in Ballon d\’Or voting (soccer equivalent of MVP) in 2010 and 3rd in 2012. Manu only made 2 all-NBA 3rd teams and never came close to winning MVP.

我觉得你严重低估了伊涅斯塔的实力啊。他进了9次年度最佳阵容(等于NBA的一阵),2010年金球奖投票第二(金球奖等于NBA的MVP),2012年第三。马努一共才进了两次三阵,而且离MVP根本没沾边过。

A better comparison might be someone like Andrea Pirlo – a wonderful player with a World Cup championship and an extraordinarily long career, but whose intangibles will be remembered more than his (merely very good) in-game statistics

更好的比较应当是皮尔洛吧 – 一个很棒的球员,拥有世界杯冠军和极其长久的职业生涯,但是比起他的场上数据(只是非常棒而已哦),真正让人们印象深刻的是他其他不可被量化的特质。

[–]MustBeMoreOriginal[] 73 指標 5小時前

World XI is a bad metric to judge by, just saying. It routinely overlooks players who’ve played better but aren’t as big of a name – hence why Dani Alves got in around a million times in a row, and David Luiz got picked when he had no right being anywhere near it.

年度最佳阵容可不是什么好评定标准啊。它经常忽略掉那些踢得很好但是名声不大的球员,这也就是为啥阿尔维斯总能被选上、大卫-路易斯在实力远远达不到最佳阵容标准的情况下还能入选。

Agree with you on Iniesta though, man played an absolutely beautiful game and he did it effectively – one of the best midfielders to grace a football pitch in my humble opinion

不过我同意你对伊涅斯塔的评价。他踢球踢得赏心悦目,而且效果很棒。在我眼里,他应该是史上最好的中场球员之一了。

[–]SpursVolJin1 505 指標 6小時前

You have Messi and Manu that are very humble, and then u have Maradona who is the most arrogant dude in the planet lmao. He has every right tho, he is like a God for us.

马刺球迷:体育界有像梅西和马努这样非常谦虚的,也有马拉多纳这种地球第一傲的人哈哈哈哈。不过他的确有狂傲的资本,对我们阿根廷人来说他就是神一样的存在。

[–][CHA] Kemba WalkerChristopherCox__ 174 指標 6小時前

Two all time greats from Argentina Messi and Maradona but polar opposites in personality.

梅西和马拉多纳都是阿根廷两大历史级别名宿,但个人性格真是两个极端啊。

[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesbadsshubham 78 指標 6小時前

What a legend.

骑士球迷:马努真是传奇啊。

[–][CLE] LeBron JamesZachkah 159 指標 6小時前

Manu is that guy I hated for a decade because he beat Lebron twice but he’s in that Dirk tier for me now. Just one of the most likable and humble guys in the game. Love u bb

骑士球迷:由于马努击败了勒布朗两次,所以我之前讨厌吉诺比利也有十年了。但是现在我觉得他和德克是同一等级的球员了,都是篮球界最招人喜欢和特别谦虚的人。比心。

[–]LakersOgenki1978 785 指標 7小時前

Messi meant for Argentina. Unlike Messi, Manu has won world championships for Argentina.

湖人球迷:梅西这话应该是指对于阿根廷来说吧。马努带领阿根廷拿了世界冠军,不像梅西啊。

[–]acokiko 572 指標 6小時前

Bruh. He\’s doing his best.

梅西已经倾尽全力了好吧

[–]mqrogers85 436 指標 6小時前

\”I\’m trying Jennifer\”

“我也在努力呢,Jennifer。”

[–]Lakerswhat_up_big_fella 122 指標 6小時前

I dont think you meant this in a throwing shade way but the football world is a lot bigger than the basketball world

湖人球迷:我觉得层主应该不是在暗讽梅西,但是足球世界的格局比篮球大多了啊

[–]LakersKingWhoBoreTheSword 101 指標 6小時前*

While this is 100 percent true, in the Olympics the US is so dominant no one really cares when they win because they were suppose to, but if another country manages to knock them out then go on to win gold it’s a pretty big upset. If that happened in the 2020 Olympics with social media being as big as it it, people around the world would be talking about it for years. So I think what Manu and his team did is probably one of the best basketball accomplishments a team can achieve.

湖人球迷:你说的百分之百正确,但美国在奥运会篮球中的统治力太大,搞得大家都觉得他们夺冠是理所应当的,所以其他国家淘汰美国就成了特别大的冷门啊。如果美国队在2020年奥运会中被淘汰了,再加上现在社交媒体这么发达,估计这事儿要流传千古一直被人热议啊。这么看的话,我觉得吉诺比利和他的阿根廷队的成就应该是一支篮球队所能取得的最高荣誉了。

[–]BucksNarakrishna 38 指標 6小時前

Messi did win olympic gold or something right?

梅西不是拿了个奥运金牌吗?

[–]Powered_by_caffeine 120 指標 6小時前

Olympic medals in soccer are kind of irrelevant. Only players under 23 play in the tournament.

奥运会足球奖牌其实没什么用。只有23岁以下的球员能踢。

[–]76ersmeditate42 50 指標 5小時前

Of course, Messi is the great, he\’s pretty much the undisputed goat at this point.

那当然啦,梅西是伟大无比的球员,他现在基本上是无可争议的历史第一人了。

[–]LakersAnalAttackProbe 29 指標 5小時前

I mean, he\’s in the conversation. But undisputed? Why you gotta do Pele like that?

这个嘛,他确实在讨论范围内。但你说没有争议?你把贝利放哪里了?

[–]JissyJake 37 指標 4小時前

Kind of the same way as to why Bill Russell isn\’t considered to be the GOAT just a really good player. The game was really different back then, less players were professionals etc

就跟没人认为拉塞尔是篮球历史第一人一样啊。他是特别强的球员,但是当年的比赛跟现在太不同了,而且也有好多球员不是打职业的。

[–]ehtork88 16 指標 3小時前

These conversations are pointless. Not only have you not watched Pele play aside from highlights, and probably the same with Maradona, at least in his prime (I don’t know your age)— you’re comparing different players from different eras.

这些讨论一点意义都没有。你不光除了集锦以外根本没看过贝利踢球,而且你估计连马拉多纳的球也没看过,起码巅峰期的老马没看过吧(我不知道你多大)。你只是把两个不同时代不同风格的球员拿来比较而已。

Messi is from another planet, no doubt. But these conversations are silly because they’re incredibly subjective with no objective criteria. I would say anyone who is a true football fan knows how pointless these labels are. How about we just enjoy the fact that we get to watch players like Messi and Ronaldo week in, week out.

梅西肯定是另一个级别的球员,这不用质疑。但是这些讨论其实很傻,因为主观色彩太强,没有客观的评判标准。我觉得只要是个真正的足球迷就应该知道这些标签是多么没意义。为啥不能就好好看看C罗和梅西这种球员每周带给我们的精彩表演呢。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliCameronman1329 66 指標 4小時前

Fun fact for you: FIFA decided to create a Player of the Century Award and it was fan voted. Halfway through the vote they announced a second award to share the title voted by FIFA board members. The reason: Maradona was leading the fan vote and having a convicted drug addict was not a good look for Fifa (ironic right?) so they voted Pele.

马刺球员:分享一个趣闻:FIFA曾决定颁发一个世纪巅峰球员奖,由球迷投票选出。但是投到一半的时候他们突然宣布要再加一个奖,由FIFA理事会投票得出,跟球迷投出来的共享该头衔。原因:马拉多纳领先球迷投票,但一个有毒瘾的人拿下这个奖对FIFA的影响不好(哈哈哈挺讽刺是吧?),所以他们自己投给了贝利。

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